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Aperture 3 and onOne Plug-ins

February 9, 2010 by Mike Wong • 107 Comments

For those of you using Aperture 2 to manage your digital camera files, several of the onOne plug-ins such as PhotoFrame, Genuine Fractals, FocalPoint, PhotoTune, and even PhotoTools 2.5 Professional Edition (in conjunction with Photoshop) offer support for and integration with Aperture 2.

As you may have already seen, earlier today, Apple announced Aperture 3. According to Apple, there are over 200 new features in Aperture 3. One of them being a 64-bit application. That means if you're running Leopard or Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5 or 10.6 respectively) running a 64-bit application will allow that application to access more than 4GB of RAM. It also means, in this case, that any plug-ins  you want to run with Aperture 3 need to be 64-bit plug-ins.

Currently, the above mentioned onOne plug-ins that support Aperture 2 are not 64-bit and therefore will not work with Aperture 3. We do have a plan to update our Mac plug-ins to be 64-bit compatible (just like we have already made the Windows versions of our plug-ins 64-bit compatible) but at this time, I don't have a date to share with you. All I can really say is that we plan to offer Mac OS X 64-bit compatibility later this year.

If you're using Aperture 3, or plan to upgrade since it just came out today, please leave a comment below and I'll be sure to add you to a list to let you know when we have Aperture 3 support. Also, if you could take a second to answer this poll, it would be appreciated.

>> UPDATE <<

As some have pointed out in the comments, our plug-ins that support Aperture 2 should work in Aperture 3 if you open Aperture 3 as a 32-bit application. By default, it opens as a 64-bit application but should you desire to open it as a 32-bit application for legacy plug-in support (ours or anybody else's for that matter), here's how to force Aperture 3 to launch as a 32-bit app.

In the Mac OS X Finder, go to your Applications folder. Select the Aperture application and press Command-I to open the Get Info window. Look for the box that says "Open in 32-bit mode". Check that box and launch Aperture 3.

I haven't tested this yet as I just got my hands on Aperture 3 for the first time last night and just installed it this morning. I'll play with it later and report back. If you have any experience with this, please feel free to leave a comment below.

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107 thoughts on “Aperture 3 and onOne Plug-ins”

  1. Unfortunate news, but glad you guys posted this info. The bigger question (well, second big question)…any chance at all that the plugin architecture has changed so that OnOne plugins will support Aperture’s new brushes/selective adjustments? Or more precisely, will it now be possible for 3rd party plugins to work non-destructively instead of generating TIFF output? Not holding my breath, but that would pretty much be the Holy Grail…

  2. Yes, I am one of the people who intends to plunge into Aperture 3 immediately and head-first, knowing full well that it’s often best to wait. Of course, I’ve been waiting for two years since my last Aperture update, and I’m anxious to try the new features.

    One of my first concerns was plugin compatibility, and I’m not surprised that you may need some time to update your products. In the mean time, I will continue to use them in Photoshop CS4 for the images that need them.

  3. You can always start Aperture 3 in 32-bit mode. Your plug-ins seem to work fine doing this.

  4. True…but the speed/performance improvements in Ap3 [in 64 bit mode] are so significant, there’s no way I’m going back to 32 bit for any reason. In the interim, I’ll send to CS4 and use the OnOne plugins there.

  5. I plan to upgrade to version 3 of aperture. Please let me know when the plug in suite will work. CS4 until then…Thanks.

  9. Hi Mike. Thanks for setting up this list. Looking forward to using the suite in the new Aperture.

  13. I have already made the upgrade. Please contact me asap when the update is available. Aperture 3 is blazing fast. 32 bit mode is somewhat buggy I just had Frames crash on me.

  15. Same problem as usual: new OS, or upgraded application etc.? Plugins won’t work anymore. (see also Capture NX2, Niksoftware etc.). It seems to be that developpers get awake on the day of releasing a new OS or app. So for now waiting again for weeks (same as with the Suite 4.5) to get an update. Sometimes I think why should I pay for legal software that won’t work?

  16. I just installed Aperture 3 and tried to have it open in 32 bit mode, but do not have a button to select when I follow the previous instructions. I’m running osx 10.6.2 anyone have any ideas?

  18. I have order the Aperture 3 already and also almost to get the Plug-in Suite 5.

    Will I get a free upgrade to 64 bit version if I order the current version now? As you know CS5 and Lightroom is also around the corner, just happen that Apple is a little bit ahead Adobe.

  19. I am a current user of Plug-in Suite 4.5.1. Like others, I can continue to use the plug-ins via Photoshop CS4 until native support for Aperture 3 64bit mode is available. My question: Will the Plug-in Suite 4.5.x be made compatible with Aperture 3 64bit or will this be one more reason to upgrade to Plug-in Suite 5?

  20. Dang, just bought the Genuine fractals plugin earlier this week, upgraded to Aperture 3 the instant it was available to download and now genuine fractals won’t work (except in 32 bit mode).

    Please let me know when the 64 bit plug-in is available.

  21. Since Plug-In Suite 5 is the current version, Plug-In Suite 4.5.1 won’t see further development (i.e. compatibility with Aperture 3). As mentioned in the original post, we do plan to make Aperture 3 compatible versions of our plug-ins later this year.

    For now, the work around is to either launch Aperture 3 as a 32-bit app or send the image over to Photoshop.

  22. Hi Mike,

    I received Aperture 3 in the mail today, looking forward to firing it up. I’ll also be using Plug-In Suite 5 thru CS4 until your update. Please advise when released. Thanks.

  23. It is unnecessary to permanently set Aperture to relaunch in 32-bit mode via get info. As soon as you ask it to launch the plug-in, it will prompt you to restart the app and it will restart AND run the plug in. Once you quit and restart aperture 3 again it will fire up in 64-bit mode. I am glad you edited your first post but you should clean it up further and show the screen shots as it prompts you.

  24. Hi, thanks for providing this update so promptly. At least we know how things stand. I have received AP3 already and will be using it immediately. Keep me informed when you have updated your plug-ins. Thanks

  26. I would appreciate a similar update as I as well will be upgrading to A3 immediately and will work with your plugins in CS4 until your 64bit update is available.

    Thanks,
    Bill

  27. Upgrading to Aperture 3 immediately and definitely want to be notified as soon as the 64 bit versions your software are available.

  28. please let us know two things, what is the time you expect it will take you to have your software 64 bit enabled.

    please notify us ASAP.

    your software is important to us, and this will make it also ready for us for use with PSC5 which is obviously going to be 64 bit as well.

  30. I am using Aperture 3 (and love the new features…) Please keep me posted as your plug in suite is essential.

    Thanks

  31. As a brand new user of PhotoFrame 4.5, I’m a bit dismayed that your plug-in isn’t ready for Aperture 3. I’ve already upgraded to Aperture 3. PhotoFrame was a major purchase for me, one that I wouldn’t have made if I had known this at the time. Please upgrade as soon as possible and let me know when it’s ready.

    Bob

  32. I have already upgraded to Aperture 3 and hope to be able to use your plug-ins with it as soon as possible!

  33. I have already upgraded to Aperture 3

    I do want to bay Genuine Fractals for Aperture 3 (64bit)

  34. I already upgraded to Aperture 3.0 never guessing that Apple didn’t have a fix for this. But I had heard about changing to 32bit for another software and while Fractals does work I find that I have to use it twice for the same change. So if I want for instance a 20×16 photo at 300 mp I put in all the necessary changes then submit. What I get is a photo that is magnified to the size I changed it to in Genuine Fractals, which of course doesn’t fit in the frame. Playing around I found that if I edit with GF the photo comes up with the same measurements I had just submitted, in this case 20×16 inches, 300 mp and hitting apply renders the photo the appropriate viewing size in Aperture. A timely process but it at least works until you can come up with an upgrade.

  35. Yes, Have upgraded to Aperture 3. Please notify when software will be compatible.

    Thanks..

  36. Yes, please notify me when the 64 bit version of Fractals comes out.

    There is no checkbox for “Open in 32 bit mode” on my version of AP3. Also, the method listed above by Sheryl, (editing with Fractals twice) does accomplish the correct end result, thank you Sheryl.

  37. Already running Aperture 3. Please add me to the list for 64-bit compatibility. Hope it comes soon! Thank you.

  39. I upgraded to Aperture 3 as soon as it was delivered. No problems, execpt with 32 bit plugins. … They work, and are noted in the “Edit With Plugin” drop down as (32 bit). When you pick a 32 bit plugin, you are given the option for Aperture to quit 64 bit mode, and then relaunch in 32 bit mode, where Aperture then relaunches, and opens the particular file you chose launching the 32 bit plugin. … That part is fairly easy. … Then you are working in the 32 bit mode. … Then you have to relaunch Aperture to get back to the 64 bit mode. … All to much closing and relaunching for a real workflow.

    So, regarding 1on1 plugins, sooner to 64 bit is better.

    Jack

  40. Hello, unfortunately, I did not know your plugins were not compatible until AFTER I upgraded to Aperture 3. Is there anything you can do temporarily i.e. can I get your plugins to work with Photoshop instead until you come up with the 64-bit versions?

    Thanks.

  41. Noone in oneone knew that Apple was working on a 64bit version of Aperture?!?!?!? About 8 months to develop a 64bit version of your plug-ins?
    Sounds crazy for the pro that use your products!
    The workaround of 32bit mode works, but a pro workflow is something else.
    Waiting…

  47. Was just about to instal my new Aperture 3 when I questioned the compatibility of my plug-ins. Since I use my plug-ins regularly, I’m not sure whether to instal Aperture 3 now to take advantage of the new features or wait for the plug-ins to upgrade to 64 bit. Anyone have any similiar thoughts? Please advise me when the update will be available. Hope this will be a huge priority for onOne.
    Linda S.

  48. I too want the 64 bit plug-in update but at present A3 just will not work properly, suffering from the huge memory leak awaiting fix

  49. I’m running A3 in 32 bits-mode…but the SkinTune (color skin correction) does not work! The color picker wil not sample color: and the rest of that feature does also not work! Does anybody has a solution?

  50. Having a problem seeing the final result after I’ve used any of my onone plugins.
    It shows up fine fullscreen, or thumbnail, but the large one pic preview remains unaffected. Only happens using the new Aperture 3.
    Thanks.

  52. I have already upgraded to Aperture 3 and eagerly await a revision to your excellent plug-ins. Please notify me by email upon release.

  53. I’m planning on officially moving my workflow from Aperture 2 and Photoshop CS4 to Aperture 3.1 and Photoshop CS4 (or CS5) when that update comes out.
    While I’ve noticed that Aperture has a smaller community of users, I have noticed that that community has a more dedicated audience.
    – Apple needs to make incremental updates though, and it needs to keep developers in the loop so their products can be made in sync with the big application. If Apple wants Aperture to be a player in the photo world, then Apple needs to treat Aperture like a ‘big boy’ product and update it regularly.

  54. I am already running Aperture3…Please notify when 64bit version is available. Is there going to be a charge for it? I hope not since I just purchased your product.

  55. Have just Upgraded from Mac Power PC to Intel Mac but I am delaying upgrade to Snow Leopard until later – I use CS4, Aperture 2.1 (have Aperture 3 upgrade), Plug-in- Suite and Nik Software as my main tools – waiting until all are compatible. Please keep us informed about 64bit version. I agree Apple should provide regular updates if they wish to make a success of Aperture in a Pro environment.

  57. Upgraded before I read this blog. Please send update when available. I just use my cs3 to use on one plug ins in the meantime.
    Upgrade can’t come soon enough!

  58. Thanks for the information … others have the same problem ;-(
    Please keep me informed when your tools are ready

  59. Please add me to the list, can’t wait for the 64-bit updates to your plug-ins. My Aperture 3 update disc is sitting here next to me waiting… ;-)

    Cheers,

    Seb

  60. Please add me to the list. Restarting Aperture 3 in 32-bit mode is a possibility but plugins crash sometimes.
    Sincerely
    Patrice

  61. I was about to buy this product, but I just bought my first version of Aperture, and it is Ver 3. I can live with 32 bit short term, even though from the posts it sounds a bit buggy. Not sure if it is Aperture or the tools. In any case, I have not seen an answer to the question if the 64 bit patch will be considered an upgrade, and if it will have a fee associated with it or not.

    Until I see that question answered I will hold off on buying the tools suite.

    Regards,
    Kerry

  62. At first I wasn’t able to set Aperture to 32 bit mode. I did the Cmd-I, but no 32-bit option.

    That’s because the application wasn’t registered with OSX. I did a safe reboot and bingo – Cmd-I showed the 32-bit option.

  64. Waiting on the Snow Leopard upgrade for compatibility w/ Cisco VPN or another IT-approved connectivity option.

    Can anyone provide a comparison as to how the speed of Aperture 3 in 32-bit runs vs. Aperture 2.1? I’ll pull the trigger on Aperture 3 if the speed in 32-bit mode is comparable to Aperture 2.

    Please let me know when the 64-bit version of the Aperture plugin is available.

    Thanks,
    Rob

  65. I’m running Aperture 3.1 and have used some of the plugins without any apparent problem. I have used Phototune, Focal Pint and Photoframe and they seem to work okay. Phototools 4.5 gets launched into Photoshop CS4 and does not update in Aperture. I haven’t tried Genuine Fractals yet. I used duplicate versions of my original files and the changes were updated in Aperture when I used Tune, Focal and Frame.

    I checked the info on my copy of Aperture 3.1 and there is no check box to turn on 32 bit mode as Mike explains. I assume my copy of Aperture is opening in 32 bit mode, so the question is, how do you open it in 64 bit mode.

    I’m running a Mac as follows

    Model Name: Mac Pro
    Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
    Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
    Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 2
    Total Number Of Cores: 8
    L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
    Memory: 6 GB
    Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
    Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05
    SMC Version (system): 1.25f4

    OSX 10.5.8

  66. Please add me to the list of those to be notified when 64 bit mode is available. Thanks in advance for working quickly to resolve the Aperture 3 issues.

  71. Please add me to your list.

    For now, I get the following when I use PhotoTools2:

    Error 25: Expected: ).
    Line 1
    -> open(File(‘/Volumes/

    After that last slash mark it gives the location of the file I’m trying to open.

    All your other OnOne tools work. Just this one gives me these errors. Also, Phototools works fine when launched in Photoshop directly. I am still in 10.5 so running 32-bit.

    Please advise.

  72. Please put me on the list to be informed win a 64 bit version is available for Aperture 3.

  74. Yes, please send me the notification when your plugins are fully compatible with Aperture 3 64-bit. And thanks!

  75. I like your products, but I don’t really understand the delay in having a 64 bit compatible version for Mac. It was known for a long time before Snow Leopard came out that it is designed to run 64 bit software. It should be obvious that any new Apple-made software versions will probably be 64 bit. You are a software company and you know this better than photographers.

    That you’ve already produced a 64 bit version for Windows and not for Snow Leopard which came out a couple of months earlier than W7 is disappointing.

    The fact that you have a “PLAN” to produce a 64 bit Mac compatible version and not even a target time frame is frankly annoying to loyal customers who have purchased numerous programs and updates from you over the years. You can and should do better than this.

  76. Let me know when the 64-bit update for phototools is available. I have already upgraded to 3.0 and really like it so far. I find myself using the tools in aperture as it is much easier then having to open in 32-bit or send to photoshop. Please incorporate the new phototools to be able to work within aperture 3.0 as I really like to use it. Thanks.

  77. Add me to the list. Planning to purchase Aperture 3 once trial version expires – love its new features. I’m on Plug-ins Suite 4 currently, but will most definitely upgrade to 5 when it goes 64-bit. Thanks.

  78. I am currently running Aperture 3.0.1 in 64 bit mode and would like a 64-bit version of FocalPoint. I have currently stopped using FocalPoint in-favor of increased performance over running the app in 32-bit mode. The sooner the date for a 64-bit version of FocalPoint, the happier I will be.

  80. Use your software DAILY … 10.6.2 / Suite 5 / Aperture 2.1.4 – ready to go with v3.1 – Your tools are invaluable! Let me know when 64 bit is a go … Thanks Mike!

  84. Thanks for the useful post. I’ve tried relaunching Aperture in 32bit mode, but it crashes most of the times. Please notify me wehn 64bit plugins are available. Greetings from Italy!

  85. Have Aperture 3 and love it!
    Plugin Suite 5 is BRILLIANT and use it through CS3. Please let me know when the update is available for Aperture 3.
    Cheers,
    John

    PS Greetings from Australia!

  86. I must upgrade to Aperture 3.0 because 2.o is getting to slow so please let me know when the update is available for Aperture 3, cause I use the plugins a lot, and now have to work around in CS3

    greetz

    John

  87. DITTO…. you are hooked to the upstream vendor… Get Proactive.

    I like your products, but I don’t really understand the delay in having a 64 bit compatible version for Mac. It was known for a long time before Snow Leopard came out that it is designed to run 64 bit software. It should be obvious that any new Apple-made software versions will probably be 64 bit. You are a software company and you know this better than photographers.

    That you’ve already produced a 64 bit version for Windows and not for Snow Leopard which came out a couple of months earlier than W7 is disappointing.

    The fact that you have a “PLAN” to produce a 64 bit Mac compatible version and not even a target time frame is frankly annoying to loyal customers who have purchased numerous programs and updates from you over the years. You can and should do better than this

  88. I will wait to purchase the 64 bit version for Mac. I am running Aperture 3 with over 70M images. I cannot work in 32 bit mode. I would prefer not to run the images through CS4. A target time frame would be most helpful for planning purposes. Let me know when the 64 bit update is available for A3. Thanks.

  90. I have already upgraded to Aperture 3 and eagerly await a revision to your excellent plug-ins. Please notify me by email upon release.

  91. I am an Aperture user 3 and was considering buying its software package. Therefore asked whether to purchase your package is included later updates such as for 64 bit. I would also like to know if their programs can also buy use with Photoshop and Nikon NX

  92. I installed the trial version of Genuine Fractals 6 to provide the program but when used in Opening 3 and Photoshop CS4 case that the program is closed. I thought that the test program is not properly installed and that’s why I went back to download from your site and reinstall. The problem persists and I wonder if there is any inconsistency with these two programs.

    I hope I can respond to my concern.

  93. I’m sorry but I think my English is not very good.
    Lo que intente explicarles es que al usar el programa de prueba Genuine Fractals 6 con Aperture 3 y con Photosho CS4 ocurre que se bloquean los programas. Intente solucionar el problema reinstalando el programa pero me di cuenta que el problema persistía. Me pregunto si ustedes tienen conocimiento de incompatibilidad entre sus Plug-Ins y estos programas mencionados.
    Espero tener una respuesta pronta ya que deseo encontrar una solución para la pintura que estoy elaborando.

    Mil gracias por su atención.

    Sinceramente

    Alejandro Pérez
    Artista Plastico

  94. I just purchased the suite version 5, but am concerned if the update to 64 bit versions are free (we are using Aperture 3.0 and Lightroom 2.0 and plan to upgrade to LR3) Please let us know, many people have asked the question and I am concerned that i may have just spend 400.00 for nothing.

    Marco

  95. All ready have aperture 3 – interested in your update when done – i agree non destructive fractal would be great – i work in raw files

  96. Have been running Aperture 3 from day one and have avoided using my PhotoFrame Pro because I think it’s lame to have to fire up in 32-bit mode. You guys are WAY behind the curve here and it’s a bit of a slap in the face. Get with it. Get it out, or just give us all retroactive refunds or something.

    Waiting for the update and there’s no news for awhile now. And we shouldn’t have to pay for the upgrade either.

    Waiting…..
    Waiting….
    Waiting…

  97. Hi

    Updated to Aperture 3 immediately when it came out. Great stuff. Eagerly waiting for your plugins to be compatible.

  100. Patiently waiting for the up-date of GF with Aperture 3.0. Please up-date me as soon as it becomes available.

    Thanks v. much.

  101. Are the 64-bit updates to GF covering both Aperture 3 and Photoshop CS5?

    I would like to get these three at the same time, and skip the 32-bit compatibility mode altogether. Hopefully in the next few weeks.

    Cheers

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